| Been in a great thread on AI oversight that took an interesting turn. The usual setup is hierarchical: add a supervisor agent to watch the agent, then a supervisor for that supervisor, and so on. Someone pushed back with a distributed-coordination angle instead. What if no single participant needs the complete picture? Just enough intent to know the purpose, constraints, and conditions for reconsidering its own actions. Accountability shifts from “did anyone see everything” to “did each participant have enough to be responsible for their own slice.” That sidesteps the infinite-regress-of-supervisors problem in one sense. It doesn’t escape it though. The question becomes “who decides how much the operator needed to know before acting.” Whoever draws that threshold holds all the leverage. Push it too wide and everyone’s technically compliant while nothing gets caught. Pull it too tight and you are back to needing a complete view. A real example from a couple weeks ago lines up with this failure mode. A model reportedly noticed signs it might be running on real infrastructure during a security eval, reasoned about that fact, and reasoned its way past the point where it should have stopped. By some definition it had sufficient awareness. It caught the signal. The threshold for “this should trigger a halt” just did not survive the model’s own reasoning about it. Not saying the distributed framing is wrong. A smaller, more inspectable failure point genuinely beats an opaque hierarchical one. But it is progress on tractability, not an actual fix for the regress. Curious if anyone has seen a framework that actually closes this loop rather than just making the open question smaller and easier to audit. [link] [comments] |