Joscha Bach believes that AGI is inevitable because it will emerge from civilization, not individuals. Given our biological constraints, humans cannot achieve a high level of general intelligence on our own. Civilization evolves over generations to determine meaning, truth, and ethics. AI may follow a similar path, developing general intelligence through a process of cultural evoution.
Bach thinks AGI may become integrated into all parts of the world, including human minds and bodies. He believes a future where humans and AGI harmoniously coexist is possible if we develop a shared purpose and incentive to align.
Bach also believes that the alignment problem is less of a problem than we think. He argues that the alignment problem is not unique to AI and that it is a fundamental problem of civilization.
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Leahy on the other hand was in my opinion far to alarmist and unhinged, he kept saying that he was pragmatic or practical, and then he said philosophy and category theory are groundless to his work but he enjoyed using it in arguments anyways. All while cursing and saying "I don't want to die I don't my mom to die I don't want Joscha to die". I also got the impression that he didn´t understand Joschas arguments. At the same time I didn´t understand his fear ridden arguments.
Transcript: Discussion between Joscha Bach and Connor Leahy - Google Docs
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