Synopsis: In our final episode of the season, Professor Hannah Fry sits down with Google DeepMind Co-founder and CEO Demis Hassabis for their annual check-in. Together, they look beyond the product launches to the scientific and technological qu...
In our final episode of the season, Professor Hannah Fry sits down with Google DeepMind Co-founder and CEO Demis Hassabis for their annual check-in. Together, they look beyond the product launches to the scientific and technological questions that will define the next decade.
Demis shares his vision for the path to AGI - from solving "root node" problems in fusion energy and material science to the rise of world models and simulations. They also explore what's beyond the frontier and the importance of balancing scientific rigor amid the competitive dynamics of AI advancement.
Timestamps:
1 minute, 42 seconds: 2025 progress
5 minutes, 14 seconds: Jagged intelligence
7 minutes, 32 seconds: Mathematical version of AlphaGo?
9 minutes, 30 seconds: Transformative Science vs Prosiac Commercialization
12 minutes, 42 seconds: The Empirical Scaling Laws
17 minutes, 43 seconds: Genie and simulation
25 minutes, 47 seconds: Sparks of recursive self improvement witnessed via evolution in simulation
28 minutes, 26 seconds: The AI "bubble"
31 minutes, 56 seconds: Building ethical AI
34 minutes, 31 seconds: The advent of AGI
44 minutes, 44 seconds: Turing machines
49 minutes, 6 seconds: How it feels to lead the AI race